Is Obama Signing Hate Crimes Bill A Good Way To Get Rid Of Freedom Of Speech?
Posted on 12 July 2010 by admin
This law may simply be anti-thoughts and/or anti-emotions.. New law somehow criminalizes emotions and thoughts which involve “hate”. What do you think?
Does this mean that once a liberal goes psycho and starts killing gun owners or Christians and states that they did it because of their “antipathy” that we’ll get to see Obama locked away for inciting a hate crime?
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July 12th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
No silly. Hate crimes only can be committed by white people and conservatives. The law doesnt apply to anyone else.
July 13th, 2010 at 5:25 am
Sara,
It night help your argument if you read the “hate crime” bill before writing a rather curious diatribe such as you have done. The legislation does not punish speech at all.
The law deals only with violent crimes, such as murder, rape, kidnapping, and assault. Most of these crimes are directed at individuals without regard to their ethnic background or group identity. A man thinks his girlfriend is sleeping with another guy, and shoots the other guy to death. The murdered does not care about what group, ethnicity, or anything else his victim belongs to. He just wants to kill him because he is messing with his woman. No hate crime.
But what about the young people in Portland who several years ago went out looking for somebody black to kill, precisely because their victim was black. They came across an Ethiopian on the streets of downtown Portland, and smashed his head open. They picked him out and murdered him because his skin was dark. Was speech involved? Certainly not in the killing, and in their trial, there was no suggestion that they were being prosecuted for saying bad things. They were prosecuted for murdering someone for hateful reasons.
So if someone goes psycho and starts killing people because they are Christians, specifically targeting his victims because of their adherence to the Christian faith, shouldn’t they be subjected to greater punishment than the guy who killed his rival?
And how is President Obama at fault in this killing? After all, he is a Christian, and therefore might well be one of the people your psycho killer tries to kill.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Gays had rights, as everyone else had, after the Civil Rights Act was passed. (Remember when the white firefighters used the Civil Rights Act, as evidence to get promoted? Later they got promoted.)
It’s just a tactical liberal tactic to gain and maintain votes. They lost the majority of white and elder votes. So they are desperate to hold onto their remaining votes. (Half of the left is confused on if to support Obama or not) Much moderate and Conservative Democrats are against what much of their liberal counterparts are trying to do as well.
Must be a reason why the liberals can’t pass bills, even when they have the majority. They don’t need Republicans to pass bills lol.
Even the gay communities are a little weary about this “hate” crime bill. I say let this continue. Everything Obama and his administration does, seems to make another group of Americans hate them even more. (Contributing to lower polls).
July 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Liberals always bring a persons race and sexual orientation into play because it helps them gather votes. Your first sentence is absolutely correct. So, because LIberals want to control our thought and emotions (like they want to control everything else), any crime committed against a minority or a gay person will now be considered hate.
July 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
no sara bush already borrowed the blueprint from the brown shirts. first you bug everyones phone. then you paint anyone that opposes you as anti american. then you dixie chick them or expose them like cia agent valerie plame. of course it helps when you have attorneys that justify violation of our fundamental laws eg habeus corpus.
you have an interesting idea about incitement. lets see that means we can jail oreilly an beck for their incitement in the death of dr tiller. all the right wing spokes people that spoke to the holocaust museum shooter caould be arrested. the guy who inspired the church shooter in knoxville can be arrested too.
since you asked what i think i think the people that would oppose this represent the reason we need it. anyone that is targeted because of nationality or sexuality should be protected. as the news reported this is the most important civil rights legislation that has been passed in decades.
are you really against civil rights?
July 13th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
So called “hate crime” legislation is nothing more than a frontal assault on liberty in general. A crime is a crime.
Such legislation is also unconstitutional, as it affords special treatment under the law of one group or another over other groups of citizens.
July 13th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Obama better watch what he signs! He could be incriminating himself!! So! what exactly IS a Hate Crime? Opening ones mouth, and passing an opinion?? Isn’t THAT freedom of speech? That’s loked into the Constitution!!! To me, a hate crime would be somone who actually inflicts bodily harm to another! THAT would have to be proven in Court! Speaking ones mind is NOT a crime. It’s a God given right! If Obama is so fond of creating new laws, why doesn’t he make telling a lie a crime!!
July 13th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I think that Obama has put another nail in his political coffin. He promised to be a uniter, not a divider. So far, under his reign, racism has raised it’s ugly head again. This guy, with his smooth talk and charming smile is a whitey hater and our country will be a seething pot of racial hatred before he leaves office. There’s only so many beer parties he can hold on the White House Lawn before people see through his flimsy facade.
July 13th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Hate crimes bills are crap. Assualt is assault. It shouldn’t matter what about the minority group the victim belongs to. If I beat up a black guy, it’s a hate crime. If a black guy beats me up, is it a hate crime? No, because I’m white, so he obviously doesn’t hate me.
July 13th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
The additional penalties are like doubling the fines in a highway work area. It’s to slow down not so smart people. Like you.
July 14th, 2010 at 5:13 am
No. Intent has always been a fundamental concept in criminal law.
July 14th, 2010 at 11:14 am
No, but it’s a better way to get rid of hate crimes.
July 14th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Such barfy rhetoric.
July 14th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Possibly, watch out
July 14th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Yes! and Braq is letting Holder completely destroy the Constitution by invalidation election results in “Black” congressional districts since the “Black” candidate did not win. So much for the Constitution and America–